[That sure is an explanation! Her arguments strike at the heart of his assumptions and his own feelings about this place, but he stands and weathers it. Ishimaru frowns seriously and offers a nod.]

I... I see. If you feel that way about this place, then I can see how you would feel that way! My own feelings on this place are more mixed. Even though there are horrible things, there are great things as well. Some of the people here... They have been saved from horrible, life-threatening situations! S-some people can only live full lives here in this world!

That is why... I myself would not want to leave this place behind. [He takes a breath, and he looks at her as he tries to put more thoughts to words.] B-but I do not think that making it more bearable would be giving up. It could just be... compromising, for the time being!