singloversing: Into the Ocean - Blue October (I'm left behind)

[personal profile] singloversing 2019-03-03 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
Well...sort of?

[He sets his book down to match, showing he doesn't mind the interruption exactly. With half the mansion trapped by their own guilt his own anxiety is relatively low, but there also haven't been as many people around to theorize what's going on.]

I don't think there's anyone that has literally never felt guilt in their lives at all, so it's kind of weird Wonderland just skipped some people? Like, I definitely have things to feel guilty about, so it doesn't make any sense. But...I guess Wonderland never does, really.
entreats: (you can't make your way to anywhere)

[personal profile] entreats 2019-03-03 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Ange definitely nods at that. If there's anything you could say about Wonderland and be 100% sure about it, it's that it's completely nonsensical. ]

If there is some sense behind it, then maybe it has to do with resolved guilt or unresolved guilt. I've had things I felt super guilty about in the past, but I've already worked through those, so I guess that's why it didn't affect me. [ Not that she doesn't still have a whole slew of issues, but sshh, no need to bring that up. Just.. not guilt-related ones. ] Do you still feel guilty for the things you felt guilty about before?
singloversing: Into the Ocean - Blue October (With envy for the solid ground)

[personal profile] singloversing 2019-03-08 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not really sure?

[That answer sounds so silly to him though. Guilty is something you are or aren't, isn't it?]

I-I mean, I thought I was. If anyone had asked if I did I would have said yes, and I still feel bad for doing or not doing things, but...that makes sense. The thing I thought I would have relived is resolved. I still feel bad that I messed up, but it's not the same feeling anymore.

[It's hard to feel truly guilty when he knows the actual outcome. He knows his brother is going to be okay, so there's less to feel guilty about.]
entreats: (to come back home)

[personal profile] entreats 2019-03-08 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm. That's probably the difference then between us and people who got involved in this whole mess.

[ She nods a little to herself. Hey, it kind of feels good to find something that might just be a rational answer to something in this place for once. But then again, who's to say she won't find someone within the next half hour who totally contradicts it? ]

I guess it's just normal though to still feel kind of bad about it anyway. [ Even if it's not the same feeling. She gets it. ] If you didn't feel bad about those things at all, you'd have to be some sort of sociopath.
singloversing: Get Home - Bastille (There's a light in the bedroom)

[personal profile] singloversing 2019-03-19 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I guess so.

[He doesn't offer more about what his situation was, but to his credit he doesn't ask about hers either. He just accepts that they're both emotionally in similar places without prying.]

Though it's kind of weird that more people aren't in our boat? That's kind of...I don't know. I wouldn't have guessed that many people have things they're this guilty about, but it's so quiet. There's been like no one around, so...it must have hit a lot of people.
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[personal profile] entreats 2019-03-20 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Ange is kind of idly flipping the cover of the book in front of her open and closed while she's listening to him before shrugging a bit. ]

I don't know if you've noticed, but most people here are weird. [ Yes, that's blunt, but.. also true! She's not even leaving herself out of this equation. Or Wirt, considering his weird stories about going to hell or some underworld and all. ] The weirder your life is, the greater chance you get stuck with some sort of emotional trauma, I suppose.
singloversing: Get Home - Bastille (In the morning light)

[personal profile] singloversing 2019-03-31 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
That makes sense. And like, I totally wouldn't have called my situation normal before I got here? But weighing it next to some of the things other people have been through...I don't know. It's like, comparatively normal.

[He's not dealing with an apocalypse or zombies or some greater destiny thing. Literally everyone in Wonderland's gotten kidnapped to another plane of existence, even if it wasn't to a world that might be purgatory.]

Everyone's weird, it's just a spectrum of weird.
entreats: (we're going for a drive)

[personal profile] entreats 2019-03-31 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Calling it "comparatively normal" is kind of generous, I'd say.

[ Although she does kind of agree that there's a spectrum when it comes to these things, but it's difficult to weigh all these different situations against each other when they're all so very different. ]

I'd say about 99.9% of the people who walked around in my world would say your situation, or what you've told me about it, is very, very weird.
singloversing: On The Ocean - Guster (I shout aloud "What will be forgotten?")

[personal profile] singloversing 2019-03-31 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm. Maybe you're right about that...

[Louis has mentioned things along those lines too, even though he knows Louis comes from a world that seems much worse than his own. That thought sparks another though, one that lets him gently change the subject a little.]

...What is your world like, Ange?

[She's told him small things here and there, but it's hard to imagine his world being weird compared to things like witches and portals to the past and the tiny bits of things she's mentioned offhand.]
entreats: but better is no excuse for tonight (so you almost feel better)

[personal profile] entreats 2019-03-31 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
My world? [ She blinks in momentary surprise. It's not that weird of a thing to ask, especially in the context of their conversation, but it still manages to catch her off guard. There are some things she thinks about that were back in her own world on a more consistent basis, but it's been a long time since she's thought about her regular life there. ]

If you would've asked me that a few months before I ended up here, I would have said it's a totally normal world. No magic. No talking animals. No zombies. No giant lizards destroying cities. It's just regular people living their daily lives.

[ A lot of terrible, terrible people though, but Ange does figure her view on that is slightly colored by the kind of people she'd had to be involved with. ]

I only discovered witches and magic do exist to some extent a little while before I ended up here. But I don't know if that really counts as part of my world if no one is aware they exist.
singloversing: Into the Ocean - Blue October (I calculate what I had done)

[personal profile] singloversing 2019-04-13 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
I think it counts.

[Maybe he shouldn't say that so certainly. He doesn't actually know her world, but based on what she's said he can sort of relate.]

It's...kind of like that where I'm from? I would have said my world was totally normal too. Definitely not magical in any way. If I hadn't wound up in the Unknown, I never would have-- I wouldn't have known anything like that was real. I'm pretty sure if I told someone at home what happened they would never believe me.

[They would just think he's super crazy, and people already probably think he's weird enough without that added weight to it.]
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[personal profile] entreats 2019-04-13 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
[ That's a sentiment Ange very much understands, and she gives a small nod. ]

They definitely wouldn't believe you. The other kids at my school all thought I was super weird when they noticed me talking to.. [ Would it be weird to say "demons". She's not sure what kind of idea Wirt has of those beings, so she decides against it. ] .. my supernatural friends, let's say. It's better to keep it to yourself, since dealing with the fallout of other people not believing you sucks.
singloversing: Into the Ocean - Blue October (Now waking to the sun)

[personal profile] singloversing 2019-04-18 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, definitely. I can't even imagine trying to explain it to anyone. They'd just think I'm nuts. My brother's six so they wouldn't think anything of him running around talking about wild, magical things happening, but it's different when you're older.

[He pauses though, thinking on it for a second longer. He's just musing about how hard it would be, but...this is something that's already happened to her.]

That must have been really hard though. Not having people believe you, I mean.
entreats: (to come back home)

[personal profile] entreats 2019-04-21 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
[ She shrugs. ]

It wasn't the worst part, even though it did suck, yeah.

[ But mostly just because there were a lot of worse things happening during her time at school. Them not believing her friends were real was one of the less bad things compared to all of that, especially since even Ange herself didn't believe they were real at one point. ]

Maybe it won't be as bad for you if you can share it, even if it's just with your brother in your case. [ Sibling relationships are important in her eyes though!! ] Are you two close?
singloversing: Get Home - Bastille (In the morning light)

[personal profile] singloversing 2019-04-25 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
[Wirt shrugs.]

I mean, we...are? But he's like six, so. It's not really the same. I love him, but he's not really old enough for big conversations about stuff like that.

[And honestly, Wirt feels like he shouldn't push it on him when they go home for good. It would be better if Greg just remembered it as silly animals and a fun journey instead of dwelling on the fact that just being there means they came close to dying.]
entreats: but better is no excuse for tonight (so you almost feel better)

[personal profile] entreats 2019-04-25 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
[ For a moment Ange grows quiet. It's a more thoughtful kind of quiet than just a regular pause. She gets his point, kind of, but.. ]

Be careful with that stuff. He can really start to dislike that sort of thing when he gets older, you know. [ She could know. ] Younger siblings like to be taken seriously, even if he might still be a bit too young now.
singloversing: Into the Ocean - Blue October (Just to prove that I knew how)

[personal profile] singloversing 2019-04-27 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. I guess that's true. It's really hard to picture him older, or even wanting to be taken seriously. He's a really silly kid. Like, deliberately silly not like...I-I don't know, I don't want to be dismissive now that you've said it, but he's also a super goofy person in general? But that might change.

[It probably will. If they get home he'll grow up and might want to be heard more seriously. Still, that was such a specific thing to zero in on that Wirt can't help getting a little nosy.]

...Does that mean you're a younger sibling?
entreats: (you can't make your way to anywhere)

[personal profile] entreats 2019-04-28 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
[ She's mostly taking in his description of his brother rather thoughtfully by Ange standards, but then simply nods when she gets to his question. ]

I had an older brother back home. [ Even though it sounds like their age gap was a lot bigger than Wirt's is with his younger brother. ] The way you talk about your brother makes me wonder what mine thought about me though. A lot of older siblings probably see their younger siblings as silly kids, huh.

[ Not that she sounds super displeased by that idea. More just like she's still considering it. ]
singloversing: Into the Ocean - Blue October (The jetsam sunk)

(sorry this is later than normal; I've been on hiatus!)

[personal profile] singloversing 2019-05-18 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
Well...I think it's hard not to when you've known someone as an actual little kid. Maybe siblings without a big age gap don't have that as much, but when Greg's literally running around chasing after frogs and pretending to be an elephant it's kind of hard not to see him that way. A-At least right now, anyway.

[Someday he'll grow up and Wirt will probably look at him and see the teapot-headed little weirdo he is now sometimes. It'll probably be hard to shake.]

That might just be me though. I mean - I wouldn't want to assume your brother thinks of you the same way.

[Mostly because it's kind of hard to actually imagine Ange as a silly kid on the same level as Greg.]
entreats: (have you ever thought about)

it's cool, no worries!

[personal profile] entreats 2019-05-18 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
[ For a moment Ange goes quiet. That last statement really does make her think of her brother, and what he'd think of her, and.. she's been in this place for long enough now that she's able to not even think much about her life and where she came from most of the time.

But these thoughts bring that longing for her family back momentarily. She misses them so much.

Then again, she's already lived with that feeling for twelve years. What's some more time with that, huh.

Somehow something about her seems more openly sad when she finally replies. Not as intense as it might show with other people, since Ange doesn't show emotions a whole lot, but it's something about the look in her eyes. ]


.. Hey, frogs are pretty interesting. Your brother just has good taste.
singloversing: I Was Never a Normal Boy - Nightmare of You (Won't leave their side tonight)

[personal profile] singloversing 2019-06-01 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
[For a moment, Wirt isn't sure what to make of that answer. She seems...like she's far away in her thoughts, somewhere he can't follow.

Wirt doesn't have it in him to ask her where her thoughts have taken her though. That seems like it might be rude somehow, so he holds back.
]

Heh. I guess that's one way to put it.

[That sounds a little more dismissive than he means it to be though. Greg does have good taste, if a bit weird at times.]

...He probably would like you, if you two ever got to meet. I mean, he kind of likes everyone but. I don't know. I think he would. At the very least he would totally show you every frog he could pull out of the closet.
entreats: (you can't make your way to anywhere)

[personal profile] entreats 2019-06-01 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
He sounds like a good kid.

[ And Ange actually likes kids - more than she seems she would with her kind of outward personality. So if Wirt's brother was actually here? Sure, she would be friendly to him. Naturally so, really.

So she does mean what she said, even though it's still not quite said in her usual tone. It's still less nonchalant than usually. ]


I'm glad for him that he isn't here though. This place must suck for kids. [ And to her Wirt is already still kind of a kid, despite the age difference between him and Ange not being that huge. Let alone his younger little brother. ]
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singloversing: Into the Ocean - Blue October (I'm left behind)

[personal profile] singloversing 2019-06-01 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah...it was really hard for him, for a lot of reasons. Obviously it was super dangerous, but on top of that no one grows up? He's six, but he was here for a while and never got any older physically.

[He feels bad, but he can't remember exactly how long. Was it two years? Less than that? He's not great at the general concept of time.]

I used to think about things like, what if he was stuck here for five years? Or ten? What if he wound up like that Alice girl, forever a little kid with all these holes in his memory? I miss him, but...he's really better off not being here.
entreats: (to come back home)

[personal profile] entreats 2019-06-01 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
[ That's definitely a sentiment Ange can understand. She really wants to see her own brother again, but if it's at the price of him being here.. She's not too sure. Battler is just too empathic and over the top emotional to be able to last in this place.

Of course with Ange being Ange though, she doesn't voice any of that. ]


How about you then? Are you okay with just always being the age you are right now as long as you're here?
singloversing: Into the Ocean - Blue October (Let the rain come down)

[personal profile] singloversing 2019-06-08 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Kind of...? It's um. It's complicated.

[His face flushes a bit, because it feels super stupid to explain.]

I think time works kind of weird in that strange world I came from. It's actually a lot like this place in that regard? But instead of time stopping it's just...slower. Much slower. So...when I first got here I kept like, spacing on how time works anyway. I kept telling everyone I was fifteen for like, almost three years?

[It's embarrassing now though, admitting that he would just casually forget about the passage of time. He puts his face in his hands.]

I-I've been trying harder now, but. It felt weirder to skip ahead a bunch of birthdays? So a couple of years ago I just started counting everything again, as if I put new batteries in a clock but didn't adjust the time. I...I tell people I'm seventeen, but really I should be way older than that. Probably. But then again not really, since no one ages?

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